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Nobody is coming: management describes a market it must build itself, and the first buyers have started paying

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Cohen & Steers, Inc. (CNS) — this company's answers

NO on the Q2 2017 call 2017-07-20 B
The model's full reasoning — Q2 2017 call → NO我们根据提供的电话会议记录,判断管理层是否描述了“创造市场”而非“争夺市场份额”的情况,并且这种转化工作已经开始成功,有实际付费买家。 分析要点: 1. 管理层是否描述公司正在做市场创造工作,即教育客户、改变习惯、建立新市场,而不是与现有需求竞争。 2. 是否有证据表明这种转化正在成功,有实际订单或客户。 在记录中,Robert Steers 提到: - “我们正在努力创造新的产品,如低久期优先股基金,以及基础设施领域的策略。” - “投资者,尤其是机构,渴望配置基础设施,因为该领域有巨大且广为人知的机会。我们认为,正如美国多年来一样,私人基础设施投资机会将很少且难以获得。相反,上市空间的机会是巨大的,易于获取,并且已经表现良好。” - “我们正在创建针对物流和公共工程的定向全球投资组合和策略,以利用这些机会。” 但这是否是“市场创造”?管理层提到“投资者渴望配置基础设施”,但似乎需求已经存在,只是他们提供上市策略。没有明确说需要教育客户或改变习惯。 关于日本分销商削减分配率,管理层提到他们正在与合作伙伴一起举办研讨会,向市场解释美国REITs的前景,以应对削减。这更像是应对现有产品的变化,而不是创造新市场。 关于DCIO渠道和欧洲,管理层提到“我们正在看到一些绿色萌芽”,但尚未有实质性贡献。 关于优先股策略,管理层提到“我们一直在期待这个已经三年了,它终于开始发生”,并且有咨询公司开始接受该资产类别。这暗示了教育过程,但需求正在出现。 然而,是否有具体证据表明转化成功?管理层提到“我们获得了全球优先股SICAV的监管批准,并获得了日本机构投资者的4500万美元资金”,以及“台湾优先股基金有2.03亿美元的AUA,韩国中游能源基金有3000万美元的AUA”。这些是实际资金。 但这是否是“市场创造”?管理层没有明确说他们必须教育客户,而是说需求正在出现。他们提到“我们正在看到对优先证券策略的显著需求”,这更像是现有需求。 关于基础设施,管理层说“投资者渴望配置”,但似乎需求已经存在,他们只是提供上市策略。 总体来看,管理层描述的是他们正在推出新产品并看到需求,而不是必须改变客户习惯。没有明确提到“教育”、“转换”或“改变习惯”作为主要障碍。 因此,我认为答案是否定的。管理层没有描述一个必须首先改变买家行为或习惯的市场创造过程,而是描述了对现有需求的竞争和产品创新。 所以回答NO。

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Using ONLY the supplied earnings call transcript and no outside information: On this call, does management describe the company as CREATING A MARKET THAT DOES NOT YET PROPERLY EXIST — that is, does management convey that the main obstacle in front of the business is not competition or price but the fact that the buyers themselves must first be TAUGHT, CONVERTED, QUALIFIED, OR HAVE THEIR OWN HABITS AND SYSTEMS CHANGED before they can buy at all — AND does management report that this conversion work has now begun to succeed with real paying buyers in the recent period? Answer YES when management's own words convey, in whatever form fits the business, ONE coherent situation with both halves present as a present-tense reality: (1) THE COMPANY IS DOING MARKET-CREATION WORK, NOT MARKET-SHARE WORK. Management describes effort spent on getting the world ready to buy, rather than on beating rivals for demand that already exists. Any genuine expression of this counts, and the form varies widely across industries — for example: management explaining that customers must be educated on a category, method, material, or approach they do not yet understand or trust; that buyers have to change an entrenched practice, workflow, standard, specification, protocol, or supply arrangement in order to adopt; that the company is spending its time training, certifying, demonstrating, running side-by-side comparisons, or working through customers' internal validation, testing, trial, or approval processes; that adoption is slow because decision-makers have never bought anything like this and there is no existing budget line, reimbursement path, permitting route, or procurement category for it; that the company is having to build the surrounding conditions of its own market — installers, prescribers, applicators, inspectors, dealers, code acceptance, industry awareness, or downstream capability — before volume can flow; or that the company's chief competitor is inertia, the status quo, or "the way it has always been done" rather than another vendor. Management should convey that this conversion problem, rather than winning a competitive bid, is what actually governs how fast the business grows. (2) THE CONVERSION IS NOW ACTUALLY WORKING, WITH MONEY BEHIND IT. Management points to concrete evidence from the recent period that the resistance is giving way and buyers are crossing over: converts who have moved from the old way to the company's way and are now purchasing; customers who completed their evaluation, testing, or internal approval and have begun ordering; adoption spreading from the earliest believers to more conventional or larger buyers; practices, specifications, or standards beginning to be written the company's way; or the pace of conversions picking up relative to what the company used to achieve. The evidence must be present-tense and paid — real orders, customers, deployments, or usage happening now — not merely interest, education efforts underway, or a large market management believes exists. The essence is ONE phenomenon: a company whose growth is gated by how fast it can change other people's minds and habits, which has just started to win that argument at scale. The industry, the entrenched habit being displaced, and the form of the conversion may vary widely. Answer NO if the company competes for demand that plainly already exists — bidding, winning share, out-selling rivals, or serving an established buying pattern — however well it is doing. NO if management merely asserts a large addressable market, a superior product, or that customers "just need to see it," without describing an adoption barrier of habit, understanding, qualification, or established practice that must be overcome first. NO if the education, trialing, or qualification work is described with nothing yet converting into paying business — pilots without orders, interest without commitment, a market being "developed" with no crossings to point to. NO if the conversion described is chiefly the company's own customers upgrading to its newer product generation rather than outsiders changing their existing practice. NO if the barrier described is purely a pending external approval or a single regulatory gate with no buyer-behavior change involved. NO if management is chiefly explaining that adoption has stalled, slowed, or proven harder than expected with no recent progress. NO if the idea appears only in an analyst's question or characterization that management does not itself affirm. Use only the supplied transcript. Answer only YES or NO.

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TMCI Treace Medical Concepts, Inc. Q2 2022 2022-08-13 B+
EXFY Expensify, Inc. Q2 2022 2022-08-12 D
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SGRY Surgery Partners, Inc. Q2 2022 2022-08-02 B+
ALKS Alkermes plc Q3 2018 2018-10-23 C
ILMN Illumina, Inc. Q1 2018 2018-04-24 A
PCRX Pacira BioSciences, Inc. Q4 2017 2018-02-28 C

How the model reasoned

ILMN · Q1 2018 → YESThe question is whether management describes the company as creating a market that doesn't yet properly exist, where the main obstacle is teaching/converting buyers, changing their habits, and that th...YES The transcript shows management framing Illumina's growth as market creation in the "earliest stages of the genomics journey," where the core obstacle is buyer education, habit change, and qualification rather than competing for existing demand. They describe heavy investment in studies (Harvard Pilgrim NIPT, MiSeq rugged, UK Biobank, 100k Genomes) to generate clinical/economic evidence for payers and physicians, regulatory progress (CMS NCD, FDA 23andMe BRCA approval), and expanding reimbursement paths. This is explicitly positioned as overcoming inertia and entrenched practices ("the way it has always been done") before volume flows.
EXFY · Q2 2022 → YESThe question is whether management describes the company as creating a market that doesn't yet properly exist, with both market-creation work and successful conversion with paying buyers. YES The transcript shows David Barrett describing the SMB expense-management market as "largely untouched" with "hundreds of millions of businesses" where "virtually none of them do anything," positioning Expensify as the first to introduce concepts like real-time expense scanning and pre-accounting through ExpensiCon to educate and change accounting-industry habits. This frames the core obstacle as buyer conversion and habit change rather than direct rivalry. He contrasts this with competitors retreating to enterprise sales due to defaults and cost pressures, while Expensify's bottom-up model and Free Plan enable early-stage onboarding.
SGRY · Q2 2022 → YESThe question is whether management describes the company as creating a market that doesn't yet properly exist, where the main obstacle is teaching/converting buyers, changing their habits, and that th...YES The transcript shows management framing the core growth driver as a site-of-care shift that requires buyers (physicians, payers, patients) to change entrenched habits and systems: physicians must be recruited and trained to perform procedures in ASCs rather than hospitals; payers must adopt value-based incentives and capitated models to move volume 5-figure discounts; patients must accept lower-cost, high-quality outpatient settings. This is presented as the primary obstacle to faster growth, not competitive bidding for already-existing demand.

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