Priced like the old business, running like a new one: management is redirecting the call away from the metric investors
The model's full reasoning — Q2 2023 call → NOWe need to determine if management repeatedly redirects attention away from the conventional yardstick and toward a different part of the business that is already earning, and indicates the record hasn't caught up. Let's analyze the call. The company is Aflac, an insurance company. The conventional yardstick for insurance companies is often earned premium, sales, or perhaps the core business segments (Japan and US). The call discusses sales, earned premium, persistency, etc. Management discusses Japan sales growth, US sales growth, etc. They talk about new products like WINGS cancer insurance, medical product launch, etc. They also discuss investment portfolio, commercial real estate, middle market loans. Is there a repeated redirection? Let's look for statements where management sets aside a conventional metric and points to a different part of the business that is already earning. One possible theme: The company has been focusing on "growth platforms" in the US, like dental and vision, group life and disability, consumer markets. Fred Crawford says: "Our growth platforms of dental and vision, group life and disability, and consumer markets are beginning to have a more material impact on performance. In aggregate. sales produced by these platforms are up over 50%, albeit off a smaller and building base." That suggests these are growing but still small. He also says "We are absorbing a pace of investment in growth platforms that pressures our expense ratio, but naturally precedes revenue development." That indicates these are not yet fully reflected in results. But is management setting aside the conventional yardstick? The conventional yardstick for Aflac might be total sales or earned premium. They are not saying that the old metric is no longer the right thing to watch. They are just discussing growth initiatives. Another possible theme: The investment portfolio. Brad Dyslin discusses commercial real estate and middle market loans. He says the middle market loans "continue to perform well and is exceeding our expectations for credit losses at this point in the cycle." But that's not a redirection from the main business. Another theme: The Japan Post alliance. They talk about sales growth from Japan Post. But that's part of the conventional sales. Another theme: The company's focus on "asset formation product strategy" in Japan, like WAYS product.
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